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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby Dave » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:40 pm

Is this going to be a problem for all the bikes that dont have blinkers ?
LED's are the way to go , but you still have to add an electronic flasher and a full bridge rectifier to convert the AC to DC. You dont need a battery as you can steal the feed to the horn because you very rarely would use both at the same time. A battery and charging circuit with a regulator is complex and expensive. I may be able to help.
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby spiderwebb » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:10 am

Dave wrote:Is this going to be a problem for all the bikes that dont have blinkers ?
LED's are the way to go , but you still have to add an electronic flasher and a full bridge rectifier to convert the AC to DC. You dont need a battery as you can steal the feed to the horn because you very rarely would use both at the same time. A battery and charging circuit with a regulator is conplex and expensive. I may be able to help.

all bikes after '74 have to have blinkers at night in OR I was told

I have no horn / power for the horn

There is a regulator that is installed right now in this scoot = the vespatronic ignition system, has regulated 12v DC or AC outputs I believe so power requirements are a easy fix

one blinker relay, the right lead wires to switch, some head scratching and I am done I think...

any help is welcomed

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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby Tuna Cowboy » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:30 am

it's nice to hear that they at least acknowledged the post 1974 requirement, though having read the actual statute it doesn't make an exemption based on year. bottom line is that time's changed and blinkers have been required for a long time. did they hassle you about your horn too?
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby joe » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:45 am

spiderwebb wrote:busted....


that sucks dude.
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby Dave » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:58 am

Do you need a 12 volt horn ? I have a source for a good electronic flasher , and it appears you still dont need a battery.
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby spiderwebb » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:15 am

Tuna Cowboy wrote:did they hassle you about your horn too?

nope

speedo could have been next on his list... it was reading 35mph while sitting there
:lol: :lol:

I'll be getting all that in working order this winter
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby spiderwebb » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:16 pm

Dave wrote:Do you need a 12 volt horn ? I have a source for a good electronic flasher, and it appears you still dont need a battery.

- horn... maybe later this winter
- flasher relay... maybe

I'll make a game plan and collect all that I need for this "upgrade" and then gather people who want to be there to make it all come together fast / witness greatness...
:P :P

I would like to remain battery less if I can but shall need input from you electrical gurus when the time comes
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby Tuna Cowboy » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:34 pm

you can stay batteryless with the regulator, it's a 90 watt, you should be fine with a capacitor and relay.
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby Gearless42 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:49 am

The draw on those Dual LED blinkers is only .05 watts so you might not even need a capacitor :wink:
If you keep fiddling with it, it's going to fall off...
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby spiderwebb » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:21 pm

almost spring...!!
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:D :D

side note:
- as I was leaning out the idle jet all winter I had to richen up the needle and its clip position to rebalance the mixture out... after talking with Gearless24 and checking my notes of what was happening after these tests I have finally figured out a few key insights.

- too lean idle jet required a richer needle / richer needle &/or clip position / richer mixture air screw setting that still couldn't balance out engine needs around 1/4th throttle = above 420 F CHT = :(
- upping the idle makes a huge difference in the 1/4th throttle range while I lean out the needle settings works to make the 1/4th to 1/2 temps way safer

** The plan until spring hits is to keep richening the idle jet until temps drop to safe #'s while doing 50 mph+ in 4th gear during extended rides. Along with playing with the needles as is normal with a somewhat tuned scoot. The hard part in all of this is that my throttle is only @ 1/2 while I am cruising along up in the 60's...!! **

current jetting as of 3-6-13:
24mm PWK power jet clone carb via BGM
power jet is installed
the main is 128
the idle is 38
needle is JJM @ 2nd clip
air screw 2 turns out

best yet
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby spiderwebb » Sun May 19, 2013 6:00 pm

due to the heat issue I might as well get a free flowing exhaust this year...

shall be either the Hammerzombie v2.0, the Bullet Pipe Design or VSP race
the VSP pipe that Tuna has doesn't fit my eye due to the under the floorboard exit point

the Hammer pipe looks cool but doesn't hug the rear wheel that well but I bet I could have it adjusted a bit to make it fit perfectly w/ Gearless24's help...

won't be for a few months due to other projects

what is your vote...??
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby J2 » Mon May 20, 2013 7:53 am

vsp road evits under the floorboard to save the glove box. if you dont llike that get the vsp race. the hammerzombie pipe is ok, but the vsp is better all around.
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby spiderwebb » Mon May 20, 2013 2:43 pm

J2 wrote:vsp road evits under the floorboard to save the glove box. if you dont llike that get the vsp race. the hammerzombie pipe is ok, but the vsp is better all around.

JJ...

what about that Bullet Pipe Design pipe...??
any word on it...??
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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby spiderwebb » Wed May 22, 2013 12:53 pm

Dave - I got a sealed battery for my blinker upgrade

would you post up that link to those duel intensity LED binkers for me so I can get those ordered...??

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Re: ding ding ding round three - smallframe

Postby Dave » Wed May 22, 2013 1:46 pm

Do you want round or oblong?
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